The actuarial tables, designed to maximize shareholder return, regarding loss of life, during building collapse, are inadequate, have false presumptions and lead to false conclusions. Catastrophe is a possible consequence.
Let me explain, so that everyone can understand.
Actuarial tables are corresponding rows and columns of numbers that are quickly consulted to determine price, for a product. (the product being risk/insurance). These tables are the mathematical result of complex mathematical equations that are created, using symbolic logic, to describe the ‘reality’ relating to the ‘risk’ of selling (product) insurance, to school boards, to protect against ‘human’ costs incurred during a destructive earthquake. These tables were designed to contribute towards maximizing shareholder profit, for the owners of the Insurance Company.
I want to inject an example: Credit swap derivatives were designed mathematical equations to describe the relationship between property (collective housing market sections) and their intrinsic value, for trading purposes. These equations were proved to be false because they failed to calculate the desired outcome. Just as these equations were determined to be false; I believe that the actuarial tables used to maximize shareholder return are false.
There are many ‘mathematical inadequacies’, false or inadequate presumptions, errors and omissions. Mistakes have been made.
1) Wrong mathematical system: The most intrinsic error is the use of an inadequate logical and/or mathematical system to describe the problem. An antiquated, inadequate and inaccurate logical system; being , a 2 valued Newtonian type of logical system; rather than a ‘multi-valued logical system. Just as sub-molecular science and scientific ability to ‘directly observe’ has placed strains (inability to adequately describe or predict) upon the Newtonian Logical System; the complexity of ‘big business interaction is following a similar course. A multi-valued logical system is needed to provide an adequate and accurate mathematical model. The Newtonian system in intrinsically determines’ an absolute conclusion’. Relating to Earthquake ‘Risk’, this is a mistake because the ‘reality’ described by the mathematical system will only produce a ‘probability’; as a conclusion, not an absolute. Newtonian mathematics was practically adequate, hundreds of years ago; however, it has become inadequate to describe the ‘reality’ of a complex, enhanced ‘reality’ world. A ‘multi-Valued’ Logical System expressed in a corresponding mathematical model will produce more adequate and relevant results.
2) Omissions: The entire mathematical model failed to describe the entire relevant ‘reality’ towards achieving a reliable result. It is a necessary condition, towards achieving a valid and reliable mathematical conclusion that all of the necessary elements be included in the equation. An entire ‘subset’ of relevant elements have been omitted from the actuarial algorithms used. The validity of the mathematical conclusions becomes more speculative, in certain instances, when logically necessary elements are missing. The mathematical models which the current actuarial tables are based upon have omitted ‘key’ elements. Collectively called the ‘back-lash’ against unacceptable (by the customer and general population) anti-social behavior. Some of these elements deeply effect the mathematical relationship between the ‘political’, ‘marketing’, advertising, good-will, customer respect and loyalty and actual net profit.
3) False presumptions: All forms of symbolic logic are dependent, for their validity, upon presumptions. This is the key area which has resulted in false conclusions. These false conclusions are due to false presumptions and failures of ‘direct observation’ and information gathering. I would like to,later, address this failure, in more detail. No data from direct observation inside of actual collapsed buildings has ever been used to determine validity. I am the most experienced person, ever to have lived; regarding, the actual scientific analysis of the interior of collapsed buildings. The people who have provided the details, for current actuarial tables, have been understandably, ‘too afraid’, to collect the data.
Consider, my conversation with the VP of Underwriting, at Hartford Insurance Company, in 1989. Based upon the fact that I had searched or crawled into 220 collapsed buildings, I was told that my policy would be $940 per $1,000 of coverage. I said:
” You mean to tell me that you would risk $60; if I paid you $940″.
He replied:
” Yes. As far as we are concerned, , you have already reached the actuarial certitude of death.”
Obviously, I was not going to pay $940,000.00 for $1 million of life insurance. I continued searching inside of another 676 collapsed buildings.
My knowledge and skills of collapsed structures and the risks associated with them is substantiated by the fact that I am still alive. It, also, illustrates the factual inadequacies of the actuarial tables used.
4) Misuse: Improper dependency upon actuarial tables. Actuarial tables are the result of using symbolic logic to describe the ‘reality’ of the business model. Actuarial tables have no more validity than the value of the inputs, errors, omissions, inadequacies; essentially, descriptive value of the equations and data being used. The value of the ‘business executive’ , to the shareholder, is his ability to provide insightful ‘human’ judgements with actuarial tables as an important, perhaps necessary; however, not sufficient input into his judgement. Actuarial tables relating to the profitability of assuming earthquake risk; as currently, calculated are giving false and inadequate conclusions. It is dependent upon the ‘business executive’ to make better , more relevant, more accurate and more appropriate decisions.
5) Social Omission: The ‘long term’, ‘lifetime’ costs to General Society of creating orphans (survivors of dead parents), death and despair of victims and survivors should not be omitted from ‘a civilized’ business model.
6) Moral and Ethical: Willingly, knowingly and purposely endangering children’s lives to maximize profit is wrong. The actuarial tables, of present, have calculated that it is costlier to allow children, to survive earthquakes because survivors seek compensation. This increased cost is calculated; using the current actuarial tables; as reducing profit potential, for shareholders. It has been calculated without humanity.
7) Development of Civilization with a ‘baseline’ of acceptable behavior of individuals within the society being framed: I believe that the ‘baseline used in the calculation of the actuarial tables is; either, omitted or inappropriate. I believe that it is barely above ‘cannibalism’ for ‘ profiteers’ to make calculations and place bets (take risk) in which the goal is to have as many children; as possible, immediately die, in their schools.
In any other circumstance and if the general population were to become ‘fully aware’ of this scenario ‘wrongful death’, genocide, and murder charges would be brought.
8) The Auschwitz Defense: Years ago, the VP Of Risk, at Munchener -Re, told us, as he paced ‘back and forth’, in his office:
“I can do nothing. I would lose my job. I am paid to maximize shareholder return, not save lives. The Triangle of Life will save lives but it will decrease shareholder return. They would only replace me with someone else. I would lose my job…for nothing. I am sorry. I can do nothing.”
These same words were used to defend actions and collaboration in Nazi Death camps. Death sentences were given.
9) Time is of the Essence: The time for mitigation is now. De-activate the time bomb before it blows up…not after thousands of innocent children have lost their lives.
10) Risk of Catastrophe: The ‘costs’ of numerous and myriad forms when the public becomes cognizant of the fact that insurance companies have purposely, willingly and knowingly created an environment and/or caused (directly and/or indirectly) their children to be endangered and killed for ‘short term profit could cause legislation to be enacted; a huge scandal and an outrage of public ‘backlash’. The personal consequences, to the shareholders of the Insurance Industry has the potential, to be, a huge magnitude catastrophe.
After, a major earthquake has occurred (in the ‘policy covered’ market) and thousands of children have died, for no reason; other than, maximizing shareholder return and keeping the cost of premiums low; then the ‘costs’ to Insurance Industry Shareholders could include bankruptcy and prison.
Triangle of Life// Survivable Void Brochure; as well as, additional Copp Victim Response Procedural Information given to more than 1 million Turkish School Children.
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Doug Copp: Still Alive. Still Fighting and Still on TV. Saving Lives With the Triangle of Life//Survivable Void.
Greece 1986
Kobe, Japan 1994
1 mile under the 911 rubble . NYC 2001.
It is an amazing world and sometimes the politics of social change and the ‘advancement of civilization (civilized behavior)’ are bizarre, incredulous and surprising. Last night, I ‘turned on’ my TV, and a program about the ‘triangle of life’ was being broadcast. I hadn’t known about it. Similar ‘surprises’ have occurred when I have gone to youtube and seen Public Service Messages, created by Foreign Governments, in many languages..and to my great surprise….. I am in them….with the ‘Triangle of Life’ being explained, to populations, to save their lives.
The TV series: Surviving Disasters (earthquakes. program) will be rebroadcast on the SPIKE Network, Friday May 25, 2012, at noon time. In Canada, It will be aired on the Shaw Cable Company, Channel 268, on that date and time.
The Triangle of Life simply means that survivable voids or right angle triangles are naturally formed next to large bulky objects that allow people not to be crushed. In schools, the desks form many points of support for the ceiling which stays intact. The ceiling falls on top of the desks, crushes the legs; however, it leaves a survivable void, in the aisles. This where children survive. Under desks is where children are squashed.
History will be bewildered that ‘Duck and Cover’, created under Dept of War contract; with the Madison Ave. marketing firm; Archer Productions, was believed, by anyone, ‘for a minute’. The first ‘duck and cover’ TV commercial; created to ‘calm’ the population, to minimize hysteria, after the Soviet Union got the Atomic Bomb, ‘trained’ the people, to ‘duck and cover’, under a blanket or newspaper, after they had seen the nuclear flash. By ducking to the ground and covering their head, the ‘atomic explosion’ couldn’t hurt them. The follow-up commercials, next year started the children ‘ducking and covering’ under their desks.
It is stunning; that someone, with any kind of a doctorate, any kind of logical mind, would endorse; such a bizarre and ridiculous policy, to save lives. It is just as ‘fantastical ‘as: blood letting to release demons, the flat earth society and ‘Adam and Eve’- creationism. It makes you think that vested interests; usually, money and power are involved; rather than, saving lives or protecting children.
The program realistically simulates an earthquake. The building collapsing. The people are inside. It tells you to get next to a large, bulky object; that will have a ‘survivable void’, next to it. It shows the building collapsing on top of them. A ‘triangle appears, on screen, superimposed on the triangle formed as the wall creates a perfect ‘triangle of life’, next to the sofa. It shows the ‘triangle of life’ with victims surviving throughout the structure. The victims crawl out of the collapsed rubble, by crawling through interconnected voids (triangles), next to objects. They do this until they all exit the building and have saved themselves. At the end of the program..they all survive because they knew to get into survivable voids/triangles of life. Various members of Los Angeles County Fire Dept, are seen as, the experts supporting this.
I am glad they do; however, it would be ‘welcome’ if they had the ‘interest’, to put an end to, Doug Copp being used as a ‘punching bag’. NASAR and INSARAG (all the major rescue teams, of the world) have all been using my rescue methods and my scientific discovery, the ‘triangle of life’//’survivable voids’, for years; nevertheless, I have stood alone’ against ‘Corporate Greed’, in the school room. It has been told to me that nobody was willing to jeopardize their job, career, ‘future’ or ‘health’ by joining the battle. I must admit that I can’t blame them, for wanting to avoid getting ‘beat to death’, like me; however, I have always considered the firefighter/rescuers heart to be a ‘beautiful thing’. It is unfortunate that the ‘actual rescue’ is sometimes the easiest part. ‘Politics’,'greed’ and selfishness have always been the major obstacles, to saving lives.
I normally do NOT watch any TV program related to disaster, survival or rescue. This might seem to be ‘hard to understand’; that the most experienced rescue person, in the world; doesn’t like to watch these programs. My reasons are simple: I hate everything to do with disasters. The only reason that I saved lives and spent my life dedicated, to this cause, was to help people. Can you imagine being the most successful person, in the world at something you hate ..but your conscience forces you to do?
I have a library of horror, inside of my mind; that would ‘snap’ the mind of almost everyone. My learning curve from working at 100 + of the most destructive major disaster events, of History is to provide me with the ability to have a different ‘screaming’, cold sweat, horrific nightmare of terror, inhumanity, injustice, violence, mutilation, depravity and gruesomeness….for every night of a very long life.
So, I turned on TV, last night and the SPIKE TV channel was tuned in. To my surprise, It was a TV program featuring, my Scientific Discovery, the ‘Triangle of Life’. I was shocked. The TV program never mentioned me. It never mentioned my being used as a ‘punching bag’, for liars, scoundrels and their minions who have virtually made my life a living hell; because, I would not ‘back down’, give up or allow them to kill school children, for maximizing profit.
For years, I was offered ‘position’, prestige, wealth, bribes and more. After, I refused ‘the carrot’; I was threatened, bullied, abused, defamed, libeled; insulted and debased. After this I was ‘shot at’, attacked, investigated, destroyed and life threatened. Last Christmas Eve, as an example, I received a phone call. It was NOT a call wishing me a Merry Christmas. It was NOT about ‘good will’ and ‘peace on earth’. It was a call, from a ‘Ted Nugent’ type of ‘creep’; probably, incited by Dr Lucy Jones, telling me that he and his friends, were on their way, to my home. They weren’t bringing Christmas presents. They were “going to come to my home and ‘beat my brains out’ with baseball bats”. It is amazing what you can get used to…even when you are ‘sick’(from 911) and struggling with chronic pain and constant illness.
What the bureaucrats like Dr Lucy Jones (more on her infamy below) cannot realize is the ‘nature’, of my choice. Why am I willing to continue the fight against these villains?
Every single one of the 896 collapsed buildings that I had crawled into, to save lives and recover ‘squashed bodies’ had several things, in common:
1) I was scared.
2) I prayed.
3) I asked God not to allow me to be ‘pinned’ with rats eating me alive.
4) I asked God to take care of the ones that I love.
5) I faced a USA Government, OSHA statistic of a 60% probability of being killed.
6) I did this only for God, my faith and my desire to save lives and help people…
7) and finally I asked myself a question: “Is crawling into this building worth dieing for?”
In 25 years, I never said:”NO”. I never refused. Not once.
Back to Lucy Jones:
Dr Lucy Jones, goes ‘wild’ with hatred, lies and abuse against me. I think it is because she has found a very rewarding ‘niche’. She has prestige, fame, money, awards and much more; as a result of, her campaign to destroy me and ‘the triangle of life’. The insurance companies who have made billions, by endangering children’s lives and actually causing their death..have a champion, in her. They have actuarially determined that it is “cheaper and less trouble if schoolchildren die immediately; rather than, survive and sue for compensation”. The Insurance Company executives have told us that they are in the business of “maximizing shareholder return NOT saving lives”.
Here is an excerpt from a letter that I will post, next month. It was sent to a high level politician. I am waiting for his response.:
Rescuing and recovering victims inside of 896 collapsed buildings is one of the hundreds of indicators and evidence that I have to support my unrivaled experience and knowledge of collapsed buildings. This is all on video and substantiated by hundreds of submittals of evidence.
It is relevant to this letter and the wrong that was done, for you, to understand; that I have experienced unimaginable horrors; including, crawling into a collapsed school, in Mexico City. As I crawled up and down the aisles a little hand or foot would stick out from under the crushed desk. I asked : “Why aren’t these children in the aisles? Why are they crushed under the desks?
In 1985, upon my return to San Francisco, these facts were communicated to the Governor’s Office of Emergency Services, State of California. I was invited to participate in a closed ‘GOES’ meeting. Later, I was asked to host a Governor’s Office of Emergency Services (GOES) meeting and attended more. I was informed, at all of these meetings; that ‘Duck and Cover’ was NOT to be discussed. People knew it was wrong but wouldn’t discuss it.
Finally, in good conscience, I could not attend any more of these meetings. I could not condone nor participate in the promotion of ‘duck and cover.’ It has a universal 2% survival rate; while ”The triangle of life’ would allow 90% to survive. Your current policy causes 88% of school children, to die; for no reason, other than, policy. I couldn’t understand why State of California Employees would allow the children to die; until it was explained, to me, by them and others.
Emergency Management bureaucrats told us that it is cheaper and less trouble, if the school children die, immediately via ‘duck and cover’; rather than, survive and sue the school boards for trauma or injury. The Insurance Companies told us that they had actuarially determined that it is more profitable for ‘shareholder return’ if the children die immediately. Victims who survive seek compensation. They cost money. The Insurance Executives told us that they were not in the business of saving lives; they are in the business of maximizing shareholder return. The Insurance Companies have told the school Boards that they will either cancel or increase the premium for the School Board insurance policy if they allow the children to survive, by using ‘the triangle of life’.
You must understand that I am NOT doing this for any personal gain. The opposite is true. I have been persecuted, defamed, threatened, attacked and scourged, by people, working, for you.
Dr Lucy Jones officially representing the USGS, Caltech, State of California (and other paychecks) went too far, in her attempts to discredit me and we have caught her red-handed. She went way beyond her usual lies and reached a new plateau.
The proof: Concerned citizens, in Southern California, sent me a copy of a video of Dr Lucy Jones, introduced at a City of Rancho Mirage public meeting as having been appointed, by the Governor. The DVD was sent with sworn affidavits, attached. After Dr Lucy Jones lecture, the first question asked was about the validity of ‘The triangle of Life’. She told the audience that it was completely false, based upon my experience at a collapsed school, in Mexico City (Actually, the’ t of ‘l has been substantiated by everyone of the 896 collapsed buildings that I have recovered live and dead victims, from…not just this school.) She angrily told the crowd that I was a fraud..in fact..a ‘criminal fraud’ because there were no children, in the schools, She explained to the audience (as they gasped… in shock) that the earthquake happened at 7 am (it was actually 7:18 am) and that the schools were empty. She told them that it was a lie that I had witnessed dead children, under their desks; because, there were no children there. My lecture-witnesses, in attendance, were aghast and contacted me immediately. Dr Lucy Jones knew that Mexico City Schools open at 6:30 am, every day, to allow children to be dropped off, at school; while parents go to work.
For the sake of brevity, I won’t list the 18 different proofs that I have that the schools had children, crushed to death, in them. The 25 million eyewitnesses of the city of Mexico City are one part of my evidence.
You need to look no farther than your own Governor’s Office of Emergency Services (GOES) Archives, for proof that Dr Lucy Jones knowingly, willingly and purposefully, for her own selfish interests lied.
Your spokesman, for Earthquake Safety, Richard Eisner (GOES) testified under sworn deposition that 152 children died, in the school; that I had searched. The exact number was marked on the back of a photograph, of the collapsed school; which he showed to me. Richard Eisner (GOES) testified that one of the Government’s Emergency personnel had ‘attacked me, with the same lie, as Dr Lucy Jones. This was 20+ years ago. He ‘threw the lying bureaucrat under the bus’…that he had knowingly, willingly lied about the school children. I did not expect to hear this lie, again, from the State of California. Kent Paxton denied that the 137 collapsed Mexico City Schools had school children crushed in them; however, Dr Lucy Jones took this lie….her lie….to the extreme point of publicly declaring me to be a criminal fraud…FOR TELLING THE TRUTH; WHILE SHE IS THE ONE WHO LIED.
It sounds stupid and bizarre; however, the published position, of your employees, is that the triangle of Life is good, for other countries; but not the USA; because “America doesn’t have earthquakes and buildings don’t collapse in America”. This defense of ‘duck and cover’ was inadequate because people were not stupid enough to ‘swallow it.’ So, Dr Lucy Jones, leading the pack, acted like ‘Ted Nugent’ and ‘Karl Rove’ by attacking me, personally, with lies, instead. She did this at many public events. She lied about me to the Chinese press. She has caused me great harm. This time she went too far and made the State of California liable for a very serious excess.
She has spread her lies about me all over the Internet and these lies have been perpetuated by unsuspecting individuals who do not realize that her background with studying ‘earth movements’ does not qualify her to know anything about building collapse or building collapse survival. They take it for granted that she is an expert because of her titles. It doesn’t help any that she, lists grandiose safety awards, to herself, from organizations; of which, she is on the board of directors. This is misleading to most people; but, “no big surprise, to me.”
This is NOT her first controversy. Many people were upset that she used her baby as a stage prop for a TV interview, in the 90′s. Her ‘antics’ sometime appear to be more like a ‘snake-oil ‘ peddler; than someone with a scientific/analytical mind; as a spokesperson for the State of California.
Dr Lucy Jones, not only knowingly and willingly lied about the school children’s death, my having searched the crushed school; but, she went one-step-further by publicly calling me a ‘criminal fraud’ for a bold faced lie; that she was actually telling. This is a serious matter that needs to be resolved. I have received death threats, shots fired and lots more; as a result of, these hate-mongering lies and campaign of destruction.
It has been quite an ordeal; however, let me make this very clear: I have risked my life more than 2,000 times. I have gone without food. I have lived in real abject poverty while working, for many years, 80-100 hours per week, as an unpaid volunteer, saving lives. I have been ‘demonized’, defamed, abused, threatened, lied about. I have suffered greatly. I do not benefit from this battle to make schoolchildren’s lives more important than uncontrolled greed, selfishness, vested interests and shareholder return.I have dedicated my life, as an unpaid volunteer to save lives and help people. You can watch hundreds of videos, read a couple thousand documents and much much more testimonials and ‘see for yourself’ video inside of collapsed buildings at my web site and blog.
I understand the cruelty and harshness of Corporate America: children without health care, food stamps being taken away. Surely, as a civilization, it is not necessary to allow schoolchildren, to die, squashed under a desk, to maximize profit. I won’t ask if there is any limit to greed; however, I will ask you, as a decent human being, to take action. These wrongs are being done in your house.
I know that it will take guts, courage, intelligence and great political skills, for you, to save the children. I will pray to God, many times, that he helps you, to protect the California children, from the collective and individual horror that the children of Reforma School and the 136 other Mexico City Schools that crushed children, that day.
I have a couple of hundred letters of recognition from Mexican Government officials and much, much more ‘evidence’, from Mexico; including, many videos. Finally, I possess three testimonials from 3 women who, at the time, where children, in the school that I searched. This testimonials (in English and Spanish) have been , on my website (www.amerrescue.org), for years.
Can you imagine a court room with Dr Lucy Jones confronting, a victim who had her legs amputated, in the collapsed Mexico City School; that I had searched? As the victim testifies about the horror of ‘duck and splatter’… of her friends squashed to ½ inch thick and reduced to a puddle of blood and meat? I have this victim’s testimonial.
These three now-grown-up women testify that they survived while their friends were crushed under their desks. Two of them were untouched because they were in the aisle ( as Doug Copp recommends ) and their friends were all squashed under their desks (as DR Lucy Jones recommends). A third child was a ‘living mixture of both methods’. Leona survived because her torso was in the aisles ( as Doug Copp recommends) ; however, her legs were crushed under her desk and required amputation before she could be pulled out of the rubble ( as Dr Lucy Jones recommends).
I look forward to your help, in righting a wrong and helping me to protect and save California school children from a crushing death. I will do whatever my conscience demands. Saving children’s lives is far more important, to me, than any personal reward or amount of money that I might win in a lawsuit. In some ways, I am trapped into choosing between my own self preservation and my conscience. Conscience wins.
Of course, I have all the proof; of every kind, that you can possibly imagine to support my claims. Enough to fill a room with boxes of evidence. Everything is available to you, as you may require. Scientific reports, actual videos inside of collapsed buildings. Thousands of thank you letters for saving lives; including, The Mexico City Earthquake. It would take months to review them all; however, in a few minutes, you will be convinced that ‘Duck and Cover’ is dead wrong and Dr Lucy Jones behavior is a disgrace, to everyone connected with her.
In spite of all the forces of greed, avarice, ignorance and inhumanity focusing on destroying me (as an individual) and destroying the ‘triangle of life’ (as an advancement of humanity.. humanlife before corporate profit)……The Triangle of Life keeps spreading.
doug copp
Finally, snapshots from the ABC Prime Time Network Special, World’s Deadliest Earthquakes, Tugba Altun, a little girl who was buried alive and I was able to save her.
The Triangle of Life// survivable void and the ‘ get next to your desk NOT under it’ Brochure already given to 1 million of a planned 5 million Turkish School Children.
Read about this NYFD Fire Chief whose dead body, at 911 was attacked, degraded and beaten..and the perpetrators got PRAISE because they worked for the owner of the newspaper !
They were never punished.
Thompson Lang was a disturbed student when he inherited $110 million dollars and a newspaper, the Albuquerque Journal.
Lang, described as a ‘power hungry bully’, by world famous attorney, F. Lee Bailey was quoted in Crosswinds Magazine as boasting that he ‘controls’ the election of every public official, in his state, of New Mexico.
This article will be part of a series outlining some of the excessive and outrageous things that Thompson Lang has done to decent people, as part of his, out-of-control lifestyle of excess, power, greed and hatefulness.
Lang fraudulently misrepresented himself as a ‘humanitarian’ and thereby was able to ‘trick’ the American Rescue Team International, Rescue Chief; into gaining permission to fly his private jet into New York City, during 911. As events, soon disclosed, Lang had no intentions of anything ‘humanitarian’.
Here is one example of many, to follow, concerning Thompson Lang’s ‘explosion’ of outrageous behavior, at 911 and as a lifestyle. It includes details concerning Lang’s entourage of ‘hanger’s on’, body guards, sexual companions and minions; in other words: Lang’s Gang:
(NB. This is an excerpt from a book, to be published, by Doug Copp. Everything , in this book is true, factual, accurate and was prepared to be submitted, to court, under penalty of perjury. Several sworn affidavits give evidence of it’s veracity.)
“Unknown to Copp were Lang’s nefarious and satanic intentions. of abuse, scandal, greed, and disgusting behavior; almost beyond anyone’s imagination.
Among many disgusting acts: LANG’S GANG repeatedly punched, kicked, abused and hurled profanity at the corpse of a dead NYFD officer; believed to be, Chief Ray Downey, of NYFD. This ‘dead hero’ was laying in rest, in a refrigerated ambulance outside of the NYFD Roosevelt Island, NYFD Fire Station. He was resting there; so that, his fellow firefighters could pay their respects, to him. Two members of Lang’s entourage entered the ambulance and attacked the dead hero.
Ironically, Copp had collaborated with Chief Ray Downey to help promote the’ triangle of lif’e, via a ‘test’ in a NYC demolished building, due to take place in October of 2001. Peter Donahue of NYPD had helped to arrange this.
After being witnessed, by Copp, Peter Donahue and the distributor for Hurst Rescue Tools, Eric Wade, who had previously been sanctioned by the NY Stock Exchange, for his part, in a $10 million dollar stock swindle..fled the scene.( Lang had written about Wade’s scandal, with the stock swindle, at the time. But Lang later came to publish adoration and praise about him.)
Wade ran to the freeway, to escape from members of NYFD, stopped a taxi , raced to the airport and hurriedly took the next flight.
Thompson Lang emptied Wade’s Hotel Room and returned Wade’s luggage to Albuquerque. Leslie Linthicum, continued to write a series of articles; describing Lang, as a ‘heroic humanitarian’ and Eric Wade as a “shining example for young business executives”.
When Lithicum was, later, asked how she could write such words about Eric Wade. She replied: “I can write anything I want to write and I will praise anyone; who will help, to destroy, Copp”.
Previously, Copp had told Lang to “behave himself”; because, first responders were emotionally vulnerable and in a state of shock. Lang had been admonished by Copp because he was using the 911 rubble for sexual overtures/games. We were told of Lang’s San Francisco sexual escapades via a confidant of one of Lang’s former bodyguards. Lang’s response was to tell Copp that He (Lang) “could care less, about them (the first responders) . I just want my fucking badge.” Copp bit his tongue. He didn’t want to walk home.
This brutal attack on a dead firefighter, was the ‘last straw for Copp”, who promptly told Lang ‘to go to Hell’. When Lang pushed Copp to provide him with a NYC Emergency Pass; which would provide Lang with unfettered access to media-restricted, areas’; Copp called Lang “an evil bastard” and told Lang that he didn’t care if Lang “was the richest man in the world”. Copp wanted nothing to do with him and Lang should go “fuck himself”. This last confrontation between Copp and Lang was the result of a ‘litany’ of evil and disgusting acts; that Lang had committed, at 911. Copp could stand no more.
Lang’s face grew red with rage; as he took off, swearing revenge against Copp, for depriving Lang of his ‘fun’ at 911. Lang was deprived of his ‘glory’, his newspaper publishing awards and the wealth/money from a ‘world wide media exclusive’ and the ‘scoop’, of all time.
Lang went back to Albuquerque and published many front page articles about Lang’s heroism and humanity, never mentioning Copp’s name till Lang discovered that Copp was sick and near death, from his 911 injuries, till 3 years later, in 2004.
Little did Copp know of the life changing events to follow.”
Thompson Lang and his gang of villains are prominent in Copp’s Book; which includes, the intimate details of 25 years of the hard-core reality of more than 100 major disaster events, around the world.
Yesterday, I got an email from Katlyn, in California. She sent me the results of her science project proving that the Triangle of Life saves more lives than ‘duck and Cover’.
Katlyn’s Private School has been using the ‘Triangle of Life’ as their Official Policy; since, 2009. They have shunned ‘duck and cover’.
Katlyn used a Wylie Shake Table and classroom desks to conduct her scientific test. Of course, as in reality; the Triangle of life was vastly more effective.
Many countries, that are not negatively impacted by the excessive greed of the Insurance Companies, support the ‘triangle of life’, as public policy.
Many private schools have been using the triangle of life, for years. Many USA and Canadian Public School Teachers, of conscience, have been teaching the ‘triangle of life, for years.
The noteworthy aspect of Katlyn’s Science project is that she was NOT doing the test to convince her school to adopt the triangle of life.
The purpose of her test was to create more proof so that more public schools who are forced to follow ‘duck and cover’ will change their policy to ‘the triangle of life’. (The insurance companies have actuarial determined that it is more profitable if the children die from ‘duck and cover; rather than, survive and seek compensation for injury or trauma.)
Katlyn felt sorry for the children whose lives are endangered because of greedy insurance companies; Public School Boards that consider it cheaper and less trouble if children die immediately because of duck and cover (school boards who have been told that their insurance policy will be dropped or premium increased if they adopt the triangle of life because more survivors mean more expense and less profit).
I applaud Katlyn for her efforts to help USA public children survive earthquakes; just like the children, in her school will.
Isn’t it always true that the wealthy survive; always get the best, and American Public Schools languish. It is truly sad that humanity and decency have been so diminished that school children’s lives are no more than an item on a risk manager’s actuarial table and their life means nothing compared to maximizing shareholder return.
As the German Philosopher Schopenhauer said, about the path of ALL Truth:” First it is ridiculed, secondly it is violently opposed and thirdly it is accepted as self evident.”
Now, that the elite, rich and well educated are using the ‘triangle of life’; How long will it be before the children of the middle class and poor will be allowed to be safe, protected and survive, too?
Go to other www.dougcopp.me blog articles for a mountain of videos, documents and read about other countries having saved thousands of lives via ‘ the triangle of life’.
Comments:
Within minutes of posting this article George Quakenbush, an American Engineer living in Chile wrote to me. He said:”
I was in Concepcion, Chile last night and had several good tremors. That, of course, was the topic of conversion at breakfast and a young lady gave me the entire discourse on the triangle of life.
Congratulations, your info is finally getting out to the populaces of the many countries.
Hope this finds you in better health.”
Quake Alarm has been saving lives around the world, for 10 years. It has saved an entire school full of children, in Mexico, for less than $50. Only a few thousand, have been sold in the USA. Why are Americans so backward when it comes to earthquake safety? The School Boards are laying off teachers, risking childrenb’s lives to avoid higher earthquake premium’s for survivors, cutting down in every way. They won’t even spend $50 to give an entire school an advance warning of an earthquake wave approaching.
Click here to read about Quake Alarm receiving the ARTI Life Saving Achievement Award.
I was in Mexico, last month. The school playgrounds still have swings, tetter totters, and merry-go-rounds. USA Insurance Companies have forced School Boards to take children’s playgrounds away.
It is not good enough to take away children’s fun; they endanger children’s lives for ‘shareholder’ return, too. It takes a cruel and cold heart like a NAZI Death Camp guard to work for an American Insurance Company. The VP of Underwriting at Muchener-Re told us the same excuse that the death camp guards used:”My job is not to save lives. My job is to maximize shareholder return. If I was to change policy, to allow the ‘triangle of life’ to save children’s lives; then the Board would fire me and replace me with someone else. It would serve no purpose. I would only be replaced.”
“Very rarely, in History, does ‘brutal violence’ ever beat ‘applied intelligence’ with the ‘guiding hand’, of experience..
I hope that there are enough ‘active brain cells’ within the .1% ( NOT 1% but .1% because most of the 1% work for the .1%. The .1% will eventually dump them too) to stop ‘feeding like greedy little pigs’ before they are ‘turned into bacon’.”
copied from an email sent by Michael Moore followed by some doug copp comments posted on the internet.
Here is what I will propose to the General Assembly of Occupy Wall Street:
10 Things We Want
A Proposal for Occupy Wall Street
Submitted by Michael Moore
1. Eradicate the Bush tax cuts for the rich and institute new taxes on the wealthiest Americans and on corporations, including a tax on all trading on Wall Street (where they currently pay 0%).
2. Assess a penalty tax on any corporation that moves American jobs to other countries when that company is already making profits in America. Our jobs are the most important national treasure and they cannot be removed from the country simply because someone wants to make more money.
3. Require that all Americans pay the same Social Security tax on all of their earnings (normally, the middle class pays about 6% of their income to Social Security; someone making $1 million a year pays about 0.6% (or 90% less than the average person). This law would simply make the rich pay what everyone else pays.
4. Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act, placing serious regulations on how business is conducted by Wall Street and the banks.
5. Investigate the Crash of 2008, and bring to justice those who committed any crimes.
6. Reorder our nation’s spending priorities (including the ending of all foreign wars and their cost of over $2 billion a week). This will re-open libraries, reinstate band and art and civics classes in our schools, fix our roads and bridges and infrastructure, wire the entire country for 21st century internet, and support scientific research that improves our lives.
7. Join the rest of the free world and create a single-payer, free and universal health care system that covers all Americans all of the time.
8. Immediately reduce carbon emissions that are destroying the planet and discover ways to live without the oil that will be depleted and gone by the end of this century.
9. Require corporations with more than 10,000 employees to restructure their board of directors so that 50% of its members are elected by the company’s workers. We can never have a real democracy as long as most people have no say in what happens at the place they spend most of their time: their job. (For any U.S. businesspeople freaking out at this idea because you think workers can’t run a successful company: Germany has a law like this and it has helped to make Germany the world’s leading manufacturing exporter.)
10. We, the people, must pass three constitutional amendments that will go a long way toward fixing the core problems we now have. These include:
a) A constitutional amendment that fixes our broken electoral system by 1) completely removing campaign contributions from the political process; 2) requiring all elections to be publicly financed; 3) moving election day to the weekend to increase voter turnout; 4) making all Americans registered voters at the moment of their birth; 5) banning computerized voting and requiring that all elections take place on paper ballots.
b) A constitutional amendment declaring that corporations are not people and do not have the constitutional rights of citizens. This amendment should also state that the interests of the general public and society must always come before the interests of corporations.
c) A constitutional amendment that will act as a “second bill of rights” as proposed by President Frankin D. Roosevelt: that every American has a human right to employment, to health care, to a free and full education, to breathe clean air, drink clean water and eat safe food, and to be cared for with dignity and respect in their old age.
Let me know what you think. Occupy Wall Street enjoys the support of millions. It is a movement that cannot be stopped. Become part of it by sharing your thoughts with me or online (at OccupyWallSt.org). Get involved in (or start!) your own local Occupy movement. Make some noise. You don’t have to pitch a tent in lower Manhattan to be an Occupier. You are one just by saying you are. This movement has no singular leader or spokesperson; every participant is a leader in their neighborhood, their school, their place of work. Each of you is a spokesperson to those whom you encounter. There are no dues to pay, no permission to seek in order to create an action.
We are but ten weeks old, yet we have already changed the national conversation. This is our moment, the one we’ve been hoping for, waiting for. If it’s going to happen it has to happen now. Don’t sit this one out. This is the real deal. This is it.
Have a happy Thanksgiving!
Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@MichaelMoore.com
@MMFlint
MichaelMoore.com
Random Doug Copp comments posted on other sites… re Occupy:
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1) Comment regarding the NY Post Story that the Occupy Movement has achieved ‘nothing’.
Doug Copp • It sounds like Rupert Murdoch, the anti-anything good, asshole owns the newspaper.(He does.)
NOW is a turning point of History. We will either have a rich elite with a reasonable ‘lifestyle’ for the 99% or we will move towards a Chinese style of ‘super capitalism’, with a reduced population of ‘workers’/'providers’ , with no middle class. The ‘Chinese elite’ did something that the .1% have found very appealing: have great wealth, power and comfort without any need for democracy or a middle class.
None of these events are accidental. The ‘super elite ‘.1% control things..they do NOT allow their lives to be controlled by random events.
The ‘revolution’,/’rebellion’ blow back will either make the ‘super elite’ back-off or they will be successful.
Also, the dumber the people are..the easier they are to manipulate with ‘nonsense’ like the tea party distractions. It is all standard material, for a tiny and ‘elite’ group to own everything while the ‘masses’ are subjugated.
I am overjoyed to see people waking up; however, it sure won’t be easy.
I would prefer that the .1% be satisfied with ‘almost everything’; instead of, pushing for ‘everything’ and causing every single living creature on earth to suffer.
I am a pacifist and a humanist.
doug copp
2) Comment that doug copp should be active and not a pacifist and humanist.
I have a long history, of many years of ‘spitting in the eye’ of the devil. I have been an active humanist, risked my life almost 2,000 times, crawled inside of 896 collapsed buildings. My efforts to put lives before profit has caused me to be slandered, threatened, bullets shot at my wife’s car, my dead mother called a $1 road whore etc etc..I remain permanently disabled from 911, currently under Doctor’s treatment for 20 medical problems.
I do NOT run and I am not squeamish (650,000 people have died horrible deaths, at the disasters I have worked)..as an UNPAID VOLUNTEER.
I just say: I am responsible for my actions and my actions are those of a pacifist and a humanist ( like Charlie Chaplin..before J. Edgar Hoover ran him out of the USA ..not a ..humanitarian like you described)
I would rather NOT have the destruction, violence, death, horror and nightmare that accompany revolution. I would rather that the ‘elite’ learn the easy way ; rather than, the hard way.
My life has been a testament towards the ‘occupy movement’ for 25 years.
Don’t misunderstand me. I cannot be stopped by any other means than death.
I hope that there are enough ‘active brain cells’ within the .1% to stop ‘feeding like greedy little pigs’ before they are ‘turned into bacon’.
doug copp
3) Comment in addition to 2)
Doug Copp • I forgot to say: That I have saved lives, at disasters, during war, revolution and civl unrest. In the El Salvador earthquake of 1986,. President Duarte gave me an award, for my work, at the collapsed Presidential Compound. I was driven to the Presidential Palace, by the ‘guerrillas’ . Before, I left El Salvador, the leader of the Guerrillas risked his life to come and thank me at a compound swarming with CIA Operatives (Who would have killed him..on sight.) I like to focus on ‘what is important’(saving lives, helping people) not social and political distractions.
I had been working with the guerrilla rescue team, for 3 days..without rest. Our work was done. I asked them to take me to the Presidential Palace. I needed to be ‘in charge of the rescue’ there. They said: “Are you crazy!!!!???!! We are at WAR with them! “
I said: ” I am tired. I am exhausted. Are you going to make me walk?”
They huddled together and then told me that they would drive me.
I have met spies, terrorists, death squads, murderers, spiritual leaders, generals, admirals, kings, presidents..you name it…I have slept on dirt floors and in palaces.
I am an ACTIVIST but one that would; rather use common sense and humanity ….rather than jump to a gun.
Very rarely, in History, does ‘brutal violence’ ever beat ‘applied intelligence’ with the ‘guiding hand’, of experience..
doug copp
Doug Copp wrote this the following on Jan 23, 2011.
The End of Democracy as the Result of Globalization
The Chinese model is taking over rapidly with the economies of all the democracies being drained of their financial reserves as native, nationalistic Corporations become more and more international. In America former American Corporate Giants are making 84% of their profit internationally. Their money is flowing out of America and the west like a river and flowing into China.
American Factories are being shut down and reopened in China.
When will this stop? Money and jobs will start flowing back into America (and the other Democracies) when it becomes cheaper/more profitable/ to manufacture in the USA. In other words when a Chinese Peasant costs more than an American peasnat then the former American Corporations will return to America to maximize their profits.
The new model is the Chinese model, a small group of tightly fisted individuals controlling a police state with a booming economy. The wealthy and powerful individuals who own the Corporations and rule this world are finding the Chinese model less ‘troublesome’ than the nuisance of a pseudo-democracy.
Their is no need for the elite to operate in a democratic system; they can return to a oligarthic state. Democracy has always been under constant attack; it has been defended and fought for, great sacrifices have been made; however, the greatest threat to end Democracy is ‘ignorance’ of the voters, towards the intentions of the elite.
The Triangle of Life' makes sense because it is REAL.
I have no objection to ‘duck and cover’, if buildings don’t collapse; however, the ‘reality’ is ; that USA Buildings do collapse. It is preferable to ‘risk’ a ‘bruise’, from the ‘triangle of life’; rather than, ‘risk’ being ‘SQUASHED”, from ‘duck and cover’.
The blog article has been revised. The previous blog article was absolutely true; however, it unleashed an avalanche, of attack, from financially vested interests, in ‘duck and cover’. Innocent people came under attack. The Following conditions and clarifications have resulted:
New Information has been added, other information has been clarified. AKUT continues to save lives by training millions of people, not to ‘duck and cover’. AKUT is a brave and courageous rescue organization. In character with the proud Turkish People; they speak for themselves and do things the Turkish way.
Doug Copp does NOT speak for AKUT. This blog is the sole responsibility of Doug Copp.
Understand that: This Blog is NOT the Official Response of the American Rescue Team International
(Doug Copp is the Chief) or any other non-profit organization or rescue team which Doug Copp is a member of (There are many).
Think ‘Tobacco Companies’ fighting to keep profits. There was nothing they would not do to keep that gravy train flowing. It is virtually, the same with USA Insurance Companies wanting to maintain profits ..NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE DIE.
You must understand that Billions of Dollars are at stake. USA Insurance Company profits, via insuring USA School Boards, is at stake; as are, the premiums that the School Boards pay the Insurance Companies.
Doug Copp has endured every attack, threat, slander that you can imagine even to the point of attacking his mother as a ‘$1 road whore’ and a bullet hole shot into his wife’s car. Organizations and websites that have supported the ‘triangle of life’ have been pressured. Some websites have been paid to slander the ‘triangle of life’.
All the attacks against the ‘Triangle of Life’ should be directed at Doug Copp, personally.
I ask everyone who discovers the truth about ‘the triangle of life’ to perpetuate it by emailing everyone you care about. This grass roots method will save lives. It will protect others from the backlash; that comes, from interfering with Corporate greed ‘gone berserk’.
Understand, that USA Insurance Companies have a long reach and want to preserve corporate profits by minimizing earthquake survivors. Survivors seek compensation from School Boards Insurance Policies. Dead victims cost nothing and require no costly and time consuming processing.
Again, this blog is NOT the Official Response of either AKUT (Turkey) or ARTI (American Rescue team International).
Furthermore, Doug Copp is not currently a member of AKUT. Doug’s membership badge was given to Doug, at the time that AKUT Badges were first received from the printer. This ocurred at AKUT’s birth as a rescue team, many years ago. Doug gave the leadership of AKUT, 6 ARTI Badges and he received an AKUT Badge. The expiration date of Doug Copp’s AKUT badge passed while he was ‘bedridden’, from his 911 injuries. There was no intention of breaking any Turkish Law.
We became aware that Turkish Law does not allow for a non Turkish citizen to be a member of AKUT.
The Turkish Brochure is seen on this page and links to the AKUT website Brochure are included. The Brochure clearly shows that victims do NOT get under their desks; they get next to their desks. They are seen laying in front of their sofa, NOT under them.
The Turks do NOT use the term, to describe this as; ‘Triangle of LIfe’. It is understood that NO name is used. Nevertheless, this is exactly what Doug Copp, taught AKUT and others throughout the world; since, 1985. Doug Copp uses the term ‘Triangle of Life’ because the area, next to large bulky objects, form a ‘triangle’ when the building collapses….This area is, also, the ONLY area where victims survive building collapse. Therefore it is called the ‘triangle of life’. When Doug Copp taught AKUT he used the term :’triangle of life’.
I have been informed that AKUT and The Turkish Government teach that you should get ‘next to objects’ (The Triangle of Life) if there is a chance that your building could collapse. Since, 95% of Turkish Buildings are below ‘code’ then they should NOT duck and cover.
I have been informed; that AKUT have overcome potential problems, by telling people to ‘duck and cover’ if their building won’t collapse. Perhaps, this could be a solution, in the USA, if USA Insurance Companies and bureaucrats ‘financially guarantee that USA buildings won’t collapse.
I have no objection to ‘duck and cover’, if buildings don’t collapse; however, the ‘reality’ is ; that USA Buildings do collapse. It is preferable to ‘risk’ a ‘bruise’, from the ‘triangle of life’; rather than, ‘risk’ being ‘SQUASHED”, from ‘duck and cover’.
You should note that the AKUT Brochure, distributed to 1 miilion people, does NOT indicate ‘duck and cover’. It only indicates getting next to objects (the triangle of life.)
The Earthquake Page, from the AKUT Brochure, given to 1 million people clearly shows..Do NOT DUCK and COVER.
I feel compelled to include the text of 2 emails that I sent to an American Disaster Mitigation Official who proclaimed that USA Buildings do NOT collapse:
Email “#1. Doug Copp • As someone who has ACTUALLY crawled inside of 896 collapsed buildings; including, 200 PLUS ultra modern skyscrapers of the most sophisticated technology ..in the USA, Japan, Taiwan and many other places.
I can tell you that this is pure BS. It is NOT true.
By the way, my background before, rescue was working at Demolition. This included skyscrapers, implosions ..all the stuff you see on TV…in fact I was the California license holder for a Nationwide Contractor. I was asked to take the license holder exam; because, only 1 person out of every hundred passes this very difficult exam.
I understand structures, as an expert; who has instructed, directed and lectured to an entire University of Engineering Students and Professors (on several occasions).
This is one of the reasons why I was able to survive 896 collapsed buildings when OSHA has statistically determined that 60% of rescuers are killed every entry/collapse. You can see, for yourself, at my website…and by the way..
the scientific test (watch the video) that we did, in Turkey was in a typical North American solid ( not hollow tile or tilted up) concrete and well tied together with rebar- building.
The test building was picked to test existing USA Building Codes/Standards.
You can go to my blog, my website www.amerrescue.org , or my 2 youtube channels: amerrescue and amerrescuegmail ans see actual video of me inside of these extremely sophisticated collapsed buildings..all over the world.
Years ago, the ‘triangle of life’ was attacked by stating that the USA doesn’t have earthquakes, then the BS was “buildings in the USA don’t collapse’ then the American Red Cross came out and stated that the ‘triangle of Life’ was appropriate in other countries but NOT the USA (where they collect their donations and don’t want to rock the boat with USA Insurance Companies who consider it cheaper and less trouble if people die immediately from ‘duck and cover; rather than, survive and seek compensation.)
I encourage everyone to get the facts, determine the truth, think for yourself and of course go to my website and SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES).
I have been in British Columbia several times. beautiful place…Around the world, I have stood in 3 cities without a single building left standing. There is NOTHING, IN THIS WORLD; THAT CANNOT BE DESTROYED BY NATURE, IN SECONDS. I have seen things that you can barely imagine. “
“Email #2. Doug Copp. Dear Tom:
You live in a great area of Beijing; but it won’t take much to knock most of the buildings down.
Let me illustrate the problem like this…
Scenario: An earthquake occurs..Typically (unless you have a quake Alarm), you have less than 10 seconds to respond. What will it BE! and What will you INSTANTLY do?
If it is a giant earthquake it can destroy every building, in the city.
or
If it is a big earthquake then perhaps, the ‘best’ buildings will survive.
or
If it is a tiny earthquake then perhaps, a few items get knocked off a shelf, some stairs and elevators are damaged..brick walls fall over etc etc
The problem is You don’t know..until it may be too late.
For the preservation of my OWN life:
I prefer risking a potential minor injury
to
getting crushed down to 1/4 inch thick with a puddle of blood oozing out from underneath.
650,000 people have died at the disasters; that I have worked. I calculate that 600,000, of these victims, died; because of, ‘duck and cover’.
Personally:
I absolutely refuse to get under a desk…The thought of ‘duck and cover’ sends chills down my back..and nightmarish images into my mind…..I have visions of things that I have seen, with my own eyes. I have shirts covered in blood. I kept them.
It is a free choice world. People can do exactly as they want, from my point of view. I just don’t want them ‘slaughtered’, by being told BS.”
To go to the revised blog article click here:
UNDER CURRENT CONSTRUCTION. WILL BE AVAILABLE asap.
This article will take a minute to load; since, it has complete and convincing material to save your life. If you study this page then you and your family will survive building collapse…even if everyone else dies…you will survive. Just as the Turks have survived.
Doug Copp has been a member of AKUT The National Rescue team of Turkey; since, 1995. Before they actually started UHR activities. The leadership of AKUT were given 6 ARTI Badges; as a sign of, co-operation, goodwill and working together.
Preface, from Doug Copp. During this Turkish Earthquake, we have saved lives, already and will save more over the next few days…come back for updates, concerning the earthquake and survival there.) As CNN Reports; according to the Ministry of Civil Defense of Turkey, an unprecedented LARGE number of victims have survived the collapsed buildings and an unprecedented LOW percentage of deaths have occurred.
The Triangle of Life was taught to these victims and is responsible for their survival. Thank God almighty that USA Insurers and the bureaucrats who are insured by them have been unable to stop us from saving these lives. Instead of the usual 2 percent survival rate from ‘duck and cover. The survival rates has been increased to 80 percent ( statistics at 2nd day of earthquake ).
Watch MSNBC TV Coverage of AKUT as they rescue victims who survived in the rubble, using the triangle of life. Look closely and you will notice that these victims are NOT under desks or any other objects. The ceiling came down and rested on big objects on either side of the victim. The victim survived uncrushed. This is the only way to survive building collapse. Notice triangular shapes everywhere, in the rubble. These ‘safe areas’, triangles of life are as natural to building collapse as gravity.
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I never thought that I would praise an Insurance Company.
I never in my life…
after all the abuse, hardship and ‘out of control’ greed of USA Insurance Companies towards stopping the ‘Triangle of Life’ (They told us that they are in the business of “maximizing shareholder return not saving lives”…and that it is “cheaper and less trouble” if people immediately die from ‘duck and cover; rather than, survive via the ‘T of L’ and seek compensation)
thought that I would say this:
” THANK GOD. FOR THE Aksigorta INSURANCE COMPANY! WHO HAVE HELPED US SAVE LIVES, TODAY! AND IN THE FUTURE!. We have already trained 1 million people with our Saving Lives Project.”
Our Saving Lives Project has already trained 1 million people to follow the Triangle of Life and is scheduled to train a total of 5 million people.
Having said that, I am truly proud of my fellow members of AKUT/ARTI for our accomplishments, in Turkey; which are resulting in lives being saved in today’s earthquake.
Let me make this clear. My AKUT Badge from 1995 is shown above. My membership expired during my prolonged 911 illness. I have been sick, every day, for 10 years and currently have 20, 911 medical problems (at my worst point I had 47 simultaneous medical problems). The only time I was well enough to go to a disaster; since, 911, was in Haiti where the Brasilan Military Doctors, after treating me wanted to keep me in the hospital.
After living near death, for all these years, I am finally wearing out. I spend hours everyday having medical treatment, my eyes require 8 treatments perday, I am in pain every waking minute from lead in the cartilege of all my joints, am having my second 911 operation (in 2 weeks) and have a 6 month antibiotic prescription. I am very pleased with the good that I have been able to do, with my life, and standing up to monumental forces..even when others won’t. Life is a beautiful thing..even when you die.
All the information in this page of the brochure is exactly as taught to the members of AKUT and the Turkish Government, by Doug Copp
Children getting the Triangle of Life Brochure. 1 Million, to date. 5 Million more funded. Go to the Triangle of Life Brochure given to 1 million people, to date. It has pictures, images and text instructing people..NOT to get under a desk, It Shows you to Get Next to Your Desk; NOT to get under furniture, Get Next to furniture; and Showing you Triangles of Life, in Rubble, to survive.
Not only is AKUT, on the scene actively saving lives of victims who survived but are trapped, in the rubble:
MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE TRAINED 1 MILLION OF THE PEOPLE THROUGH THE TRIANGLE OF LIFE TO SAVE THEMSELVES AND ESCAPE FROM THE RUBBLE.
Prior to Doug Copp training the AKUT mountain climbing club to rescue people, trapped in collapsed buildings, the victims simply died buried alive. Nobody rescued anybody because it was thought to be the will of Allah (See newspaper article quote, in text). Not only has AKUT and Rescue Chief Doug Copp saved lives in turkey. AKUT has become one of the very best and most successful rescue teams, in the entire world.
It gives me great pleasure to know that the ‘triangle of life’ has been taught throughout all regions of Turkey.
The Opening Ceremony for the 5 Million person, 50 city and 250 region program, to make Turkey the world leader in the triangle of Life, survival method, invented by Doug Copp.
Amazingly, while USA insurance companies mistakenly have concluded that it is more profitable to allow school children to die from ‘duck and cover’; rather than survive and seek compensation. Turkey is more humane. (Which American would have thought that?)
The Aksigorta Insurance Company, of Turkey has concluded that they prefer to save children’s lives, in schools and the public as a whole.
The Aksigorta Insurance Company, of Turkey has concluded that they prefer to save children's lives, in schools and the public as a whole. Clicking on this logo will take you to hundreds of Triangle of Life videos, docs and more thru out the world ..via the ARTI website.
It is true that the people of Turkey are not as litigious as the people of the USA; consequently, the insurers are not as ‘exposed’ to victims seeking compensation; however, I must applaud the Aksigorta Insurance Company of Turkey. Lives have been saved; today, because of their humanity.
TRAINING: The 'Life goes on, Turkey' (Hayata Devam Türkiye) campaign is hitting the road to raise awareness about the risks of earthquakes, fires and floods through the use of a quake simulator and interactive theatrical skits. DAILY NEWS photo
Standing beside the campaign’s two bright red trailer trucks, Namık Arıkol, the project’s general coordinator, with long hair and dressed in a black t-shirt and leather vest, looks like he could be preparing for an upcoming rock concert. Arıkol, however, is interested in preparing Turkey for something more dangerous.
“Ninety-five percent of Turkey lies in an earthquake region,” Arıkol told the Hürriyet Daily News & Economic Review. “Turks wrongly think earthquakes result from only God’s work or fate, and structurally weak buildings remain in place to kill people.
“The project aims to continue for five years and eventually reach a total of 5 million people in 50 cities and 250 districts in Turkey, according to Burçak Seyis, the representative of Aksigorta for the project.” By Following the links,
Some other useful and relevant links:
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Background:
Doug Copp was asked by a mother, of an American Student /hiker, to go, to Turkey and locate her son; who had been missing, in a wilderness area of Turkey, for 8 months. The US Military, US Embassy, Turkish Mountain Climbers and locals had searched for him without success. Doug went there planning to spend a couple of weeks searching. Doug found his remains, the first day.
This gave Doug extra free time to spend, in Turkey. Doug asked AKUT. the local mountain club: ” What happens when people are trapped in collapsed buildings? Who rescues them? ( Doug has trained hundreds of rescue teams and had planned to train a Turkish team.)”
The reply was: “Nobody. Nothing happens. People arn’t rescued.”
Doug said: ” No, let me explain. I mean…the people are alive and need to be rescued..’
The response was: “Nothing is done. It is the will of Allah.”
Doug said:” ” I mean..the people are screaming for help..they are alive..and trapped”
The answer was harsh;” Nothing is done..the rubble is taken to the ‘dump’……the people believe it is the will of Allah….they are left to die.”
Doug said to AKUT:” You guys are well educated, athletic, cultured, sophisticated..why don’t you let me train you to rescue people??”
The members of AKUT huddled together, spoke together and then turned to me, saying:” Sure. We can do that.”
Doug trained the mountain club to rescue people..and returned to Turkey many times, to train, lecture to the government and to help AKUT get funding and official recognition from the Turkish Government. The scientific triangle of Life test took place with the Federal Government, City of Istanbul, University of Istanbul and others involved. Movie Stars took part and it was broadcast on National Turkish TV and throughout the world, on Real TV.
AKUT has logged almost 2,000 rescues; since, Doug started the rescue team. The first thing that Doug teaches any rescuer is how to save their life and how to ensure that their family survives. ” A dead rescuer saves..nobody.”
The seed of the “Triangle of Life’ was planted.
AKUT seen rescuing people, on Turkish TV..got ‘rockstar’ status with the ‘macho’ Turks. Every young Turk wanted to be a rescuer….Hundreds of rescue teams started and the Turkish culture was changed..to one of focused heroism and saving lives.
Thanks, to Doug Copp and the first members of AKUT; Turkey has the strongest rescue effort of any country, in the world.
Watch the latest TV Broadcast of Doug Copp, on the 10 th Anniversary of 911, Sept 11, 2011. The Title is ’911 TV Hero Doug Copp (KOB-TV)’.
TV coverage of Doug Copp, described as a “911 Hero playing an instrumental part at the World Trade Center, and the NYPD using one of Copp’s inventions to locate victims, in the rubble”. This was re- broadcast, on TV, in Albuquerque, on the 10th Anniversary of 911.
2) Doug Copp, training mission to Turkey, to teach AKUT, and Turkish Government Leaders (including the Governor of today’s earthquake region)
NB These first 2 videos from Turkey are 16 years old, from our old website and very poor quality. You should view these only for info purposes and not entertainment. All the other videos are / great quality
3) Doug Copp, on the TV program ‘Real TV’, broadcast in 200 countries, saving the life of a little girl, buried alive, in Turkey.
4) Doug Copp and AKUT, saving lives and informing people, about the ‘Triangle of Life’ on the Major USA Network TV program ‘The View from Above’.
5) Doug Copp and AKUT, on the ‘Real TV’ Program, broadcast to 200 countries, ‘Scientific Test, in Turkey, to Save Lives, in Earthquakes.’ This test was made with the participation of the City of Istanbul, University of Istanbul, Federal Government of Turkey, AKUT, ARTI and Doug Copp. We took earthquake survival , under rigid scientific analysis and procedure, from 0% using ‘duck and cover’ to 100% using the ‘Triangle of Life’. See for yourself.
Note from Doug Copp:
” Under this scientific test, survival was 100% using the ‘Triangle of Life’; however, I expect that the average, in real-life-earthquakes would only be 90%. It must be understood that, TODAY, ‘Duck and Cover’ results in only 2% of people surviving, in the USA and other countries.
6) Doug Copp and ARTI, save lives, in Turkey, on the Discovery Channel.
7) ‘The World’s Deadliest Earthquakes’, an ABC Major Network Prime Time Special Doug Copp saves lives, in Turkey.
8) ‘The World’s Most Dangerous Jobs’. The BBC TV production featuring Doug Copp, Rescue Chief of ARTI (American Rescue Team International), GOER (Argentina), AKUT (Turkey) and Captain National Fire Dept of Peru. Doug is seen saving lives around the world, going under the rubble of 911 while the fire is still smoldering , searching where FEMA were too afraid to go, getting poisoned under the millions of tons of rubble and finally getting medical treatment and struggling to stay alive through years of severe 911 illness. Doug is seen at the end stating: ” I did the right thing. I would do it all over again…without a second’s hesitation.. If God wants me to die…doing the right thing…then I’ll die..period.”
9) ‘Anatomy of a Disaster’ Discovery Channel and Major Network Broadcast more than 600 times, throughout the world, featuring Doug Copp saving lives, in Turkey.
11) ‘Future Storm’, an award winning BBC Special featuring Doug Copp and the Triangle of Life’. The most expensive BBC Production ever made. It was ‘held back’ because BBC executives were alarmed that it was too frightening.
12)This is a 57 minute collection of very important video and TV Coverage of the Triangle of Life:
13) Doug Copp trains AKUT to do Urban Heavy Rescue
14) Doug Copp on The Learning Channel Program broadcast throughout the world, more than 1,000 broadcasts. The highest rated program ever to air on the network. “Earth’s Fury, Earthquakes” Doug saving lives.
15) 3) Doug Copp, on another of the Real TV Series covering Doug, broadcast in 200 countries. It tells about the triangle of Life and how to identify the locations of survivors.
16) Doug Copp on the Discovery Channel Using Helicopters, in Turkey to save lives, during an earthquake.
17) The World’s largest supplier of Training Films made this video, for the USA market..it features Doug Copp and The Triangle of Life.
18) This 4 minute TV Commercial, from New Zealand , tells you how to save your life with the Triangle of Life. Wow, This 4 minutes..can save your life.
19) This German TV Program has Doug Copp explaining the Triangle of Life, in German.
20) Doug Copp using the Triangle of Life at The World Trade Center 1 hr 30 minutes.of footage.
21) Doug Copp, 1 minute Public Service Commercial using the Triangle of life, in a Tsunami.
22) Doug Copp, on MSNBC, being interviewed about 1999 Turkish Earthquake and the Triangle of Life.
23) Doug Copp , T of L, Public Service Commercial 1 minute earthquake version 1.
24) Doug Copp T of L, 1 Minute Commercial , version 2.
25) Doug Copp, t of l, 1 minute commercial version 3.
26) Doug Copp Humanitarian, a mixture of lots of ACTION footage about the triangle of life
27) A Crushed Desk..see for yourself ..the difference between living and dieing.
28) The first new earthquake survival info in 50 years. This was broadcast to an initial audience of 500 million.CCTV Chinese & English . CCTV China came to Doug Copp’s home and made this TV Program. First Broadcast was watched by 500 Million People.
29) Watch the T of L TV Commercial made by The Government of Mexico, for Mexico City, the most populated city, in the world.
“Meanwhile, U.N. security experts this week sent out a triangle-of-life PowerPoint presentation to staff members in Latin America who are still shaken by the deaths of 100-plus U.N. workers in the organization’s Port-au-Prince headquarters, including the head of the mission there.”
April, 2010. Title: “Doug Copp, Triangle of Life”
This magazine has a circulation of 100,000, in the 10 wealthiest arab countries.
It is published for the elite, super-rich of the oil world.
It is a block buster expose of the $ and death behind ‘duck and cover.’
We are translating this article into English.
*or go directly to the Business and Economy Magazine website*
March 5, 2010. Title: “Are you prepared?
Next time when the ground beneath your feet trembles, try the ‘Triangle of Life’”
Excerpt/Quote:
“Techniques like drop, cover and hold-on are passé. “Duck and cover results in a 98% death rate when buildings collapse. The only people who survive are those who do the ‘triangle of life’. This is either intentionally or as a result of panicking, fleeing, being knocked to the floor and somehow finding themselves in a survivable void. If the masses followed the ‘triangle of life’, there would be a major shift from death to survivability, in earthquakes,” says Doug Copp, Professor of Disaster Mitigation at the International Institute of Disaster Reduction Institute.”
Ravi Inder Singh Correspondent—FEATURES Business & Economy, 4P’s Business and Marketing, and The Sunday Indian (TSI)
There are many power point and pdf files on the Triangle of LIfe:
“Keep Living Turkey” Project
Aksigorta And Akut Together Reached A Breakthrough By Reaching More Than 1 Million People With Respect To Natural Disasters And İnsurance Awareness Through The Project Entitled “Keep Living, Turkey”.
In the first phase of the social responsibility project entitled “Keep Living, Turkey”, more than 1 million people, including students, representatives of official institutions, SME employees and citizens, were educated on protecting against natural disasters and taking out insurance through a variety of seminars and training sessions. Mr. Uğur Gülen, the CEO of Aksigorta, expressed his belief that the 5-year project would enable Turkish citizens to take a stand against natural disasters in a better equipped manner and with a better understanding of the importance of being insured against catastrophes.
The “Disaster Training” convoy, set up by Aksigorta and AKUT – Turkey’s most trusted organizations in their own fields to form the social responsibility project entitled “Keep Living, Turkey”, educated more than 1 million people on natural disasters and insurance awareness in a total of 10 provinces and 50 districts. Having completed the first phase of the project at the Kadıköy Square, Aksigorta and AKUT shared the public the results of this 2-month marathon with the general public.
In the first phase of the project, which was conducted with the support of local administrations while enjoying wide participation and strong interest from the general public, the convoy covered a total of 15,000 km in its 2-month tour, which covered Istanbul, Bursa, Izmir, Antalya, Adana, Gaziantep, Malatya, Trabzon, Samsun and Ankara. In this period, one-to-one contact was established with 500,000 people, 100,000 of whom were students and 5,000 were handicapped. Seminars were provided to them on protection against natural disasters and raising awareness on insurance.
“Turkey’s first 3-D G-Force Mobile Earthquake Simulator Truck” and “Life Resume Turkey Disaster Training Truck” Taksim Square and headed to the ceremony. Professional educators and cast, in the first place, Istanbul, Bursa, Izmir, Antalya, Adana, Gaziantep, Malatya, Trabzon, Samsun and Ankara, covering 10 provinces and 50 counties, will work to spread public awareness of insurance by providing instruction in natural disasters.
Turkey’s most trusted institutions in their respective fields, and the acute Aksigorta, “Life Resume Turkey ‘social responsibility project,” in order to raise awareness of disaster and insurance “, 5 years, 50 provinces, 250 counties aiming to reach 5 million people visited.
Cast of 30 professional educators and the “Life Resume Turkey” project, designed specifically for social responsibility; Turkey’s first 3-dimensional G-Force Mobile Earthquake Simulator Truck “and” Life Resume Turkey Disaster Training Truck “s, as well as educational films, seminars, talks, training manuals and insurance awareness yaygılaştırılmaya to work with the disaster.
In addition, disaster and insurance with a professional theatrical performance demonstrating that the players, the public can participate in interactive will be covered in a fun way. Anyone wishing to attend events and information www.hayatadevamturkiye.com website all of the photos, training documents, have access to constantly updated information.
The first stage, 60 days, Istanbul, Bursa, Izmir, Antalya, Adana, Gaziantep, Malatya, Trabzon, Samsun and Ankara, which will cover a total of 50 district “Life Resume Turkey ‘social responsibility project, in disaster, Turkey, the districts also carries the distinction of being the first project covering.
I am so happy, pleased and grateful, to God that he has so blessed me with the fruition of my efforts to create a rescue team, in Turkey and save the lives of it’s people thru the ‘Triangle of Life’.
With the assistance and support of AKUT, The Turkish Governments (on all levels), the Aksigorta iNSURANCE COMPANY and the the Great people of Turkey…This is the second greatest thing that I have done, in my life and well worth dieing for.
ARTI and my work ( Doug Copp) continues, in India:
Saving the lives of 250,000 victims, in India , by preventing an outbreak of the plague, following the Gujarat Earthquake…After the Indian Government had resigned itself to 250,000 deaths was the greatest thing that I have ever done..in my time on earth….
The success of our efforts in Turkey to save lives, reduce suffering and help people ……makes me feel like my ordeal with , his bought-off cronies, greedy USA insurance companies and completely unethical and immoral USA bureaucrats (‘pushing duck and cover’ because it is “cheaper and less trouble” to let the children die; rather than, sue the School Boards and Government Agencies)
has all been worth it.
I would gladly have my reputation slandered and destroyed, give my life and endure any threat; including, FEMA’s abuse (see the Doug Copp Blog Article) referring to my dead mother as a “$1 Road Whore ” to be fucked by )…for the comforting thought that I managed to do something very good to help people.
My 911 injuries have made it impossible, for me, to save lives, at major disasters.
Nevertheless, the same spirit that drove me to sleep on ‘bare dirt’ for 6 months/year, donate 70% of my income, and crawl inside of 896 collapsed buildings, as an unpaid volunteer; continues to drive me to save lives via, the ‘triangle of life’.
The vested financial and bureaucratic interests that spend time, effort and money to destroy me fail to understand me. They have no understanding, of the mind of a humanitarian. Their attempts to destroy me have continued for years, there is NO lie they will not tell and no limit on their vindictive hatred.
It all amounts to nothing. Let me tell you why.
On 3 occasions, I found myself inside of a collapsed building when a ‘life threatening incident’ occurred. I faced my own immediate death. There was nothing that I could do. It was impossible for me to survive. I looked up, asked God to save me; so that, I could save more lives. On three occasions, absolutely impossible miracles occurred. These miracles will be detailed, in another blog article.
I cannot stop; saving lives, via the ‘triangle of life’ because of my promise to GOD.
They must kill me or stop endangering children’s lives, for profit. ‘Duck and cover’ is death.
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Doug Copp
Please go to the other wwwDougCopp.me blogs to get much more survival information and links:
With all the vitriolic attacks against the , I have noticed a couple of consistencies: 1) None of the proponents of ‘duck and cover’ try to defend it based upon survivability or reality, 2) None of the proponents of ‘duck and cover’ have actually crawled inside of a collapsed building to actually see the truth of what happens inside, 3) All the proponents of ‘duck and cover’ are bureaucratic types who have a vested financial interest in ‘duck and cover’, 4) They all attack me, doug copp, personally as a fraud, criminal etc etc.., 5) None of them offer any proof (unlike the triangle of life where you can watch hundreds of videos, pictures, power point etc. , 6) It is all about money. It is cheaper and less trouble if school children are immediately killed, in an earthquake, so that they don’t sue the bureaucrats, their institutions or the insurance companies who have their policies against earthquake liability.
Background:
The triangle of Life was discovered by Doug Copp, when he crawled inside of a collapsed school, in Mexico City, during the 1985 earthquake. As Doug crawled up and down the aisles, in safety, he was shocked that all the children were crushed to death under their desks. The ceiling had fallen and the weight had ‘snapped’ the legs of all the desks.The ceiling rested upon all the desk tops and remained intact. The children were 1/2 inch thick. Doug did not know it at the time but 3 children had survived this horror. Their English affidavits are at www.amerrescue.org with links to the original Spanish language publications Two girls who were, in the aisles survived untouched. Lorena had her legs squashed under the desk. Her torso was in the aisle. Her legs needed to be amputated but she survived.
The Triangle of Life is Spreading Around The World:
Doug posted the article, on his website and was contacted by an unknown reader who asked permission to condense the article into an and send it to some friends. It is conservatively estimated that 1 billion people got that email. It went from family member and friend throughout the farthest corners of the world.
The INSARAG association of Governmental Rescue Teams, from around the world, have been teaching the triangle of life, for 10 years and NASAR, the association of Fire Dept’s and Rescue teams, in America, has been teaching the triangle of Life , for 7 years.
The Triangle of Life is Spreading Around the World
As the German Philosopher Shopenhauer stated: The path of all truth follows 3 steps. First it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed and Thirdly it is accepted as self evident.
Doug Copp is quoted: “American Insurance Companies continue to violently oppose the triangle of life because surviving school children require compensation for emotional or traumatic injury. Shareholder profits are reduced. Many USA bureaucrats continue to oppose the triangle of life because the insurance companies have told them that their premiums will increase or their coverage will be dropped, if they change to the triangle of life. This is wrong and unacceptable to any decent person. Children’s lives are more important than Insurance Company profits. Does this sound like the truth behind the Health Care Debate, in the USA? It is. Corporate Profit vs. human life”
Read the article (part of a series of 9 articles supporting Doug Copp) as published by the Desert Valley Star , a California newspaper, exposing the malicious lies and attacks against Doug Copp
‘Duck and Cover’ cannot be defended; since, it is nonsense and the “triangle of Life’ is as true and real as gravity; therefore, the only means of protecting corporate greed, at the expense of school children’s lives, has been to attack Doug Copp, personally. As an unpaid volunteer, who has risked his life and dedicated his life, to saving people from disaster, Doug Copp has been defamed and discredited as a ‘knucklehead’, ‘idiot’, ‘criminal’, ‘phony’, ‘fraud’…and worse. Criminal acts have been made against him and his life has been threatened.
Doug Copp’s response: ” I follow my conscience. Their lies are not enough to stop me. They will need to kill me. After my death, I will face God and know that I did everything I possibly could to protect the children. I will have a clear conscience. Period.”
The moral of this story is contained within 2 Questions; 1) Is there any limit to greed? and
2) Is there any limit to ‘dumb’?
I got this email, yesterday. I decided to post my reply, on line; since, it has been ‘front and center’, leading the ‘let’s be dumb’ attack against the ‘triangle of life’ This email is from a USA teacher who is ‘under attack’ for supporting the triangle of life.
Here is the email text in italics as I respond to the details:
****Hi Doug, We spoke about 1 1/2-2 yrs. ago. I have brought your triangle issue up again at my district Health/Safety committee for our school district. The one question that still comes up from the engineer for the district is that this only happens in third world countries, not North America.
****This guy states that he is an engineer.
Reply: A Sanitation Engineer?(Garbageman) A janitorial Engineer?(Janitor) The Official Organization for the Structural Engineering Association came out with a Headline Article supporting the ‘triangle of life’. I have a copy. In the next issue, after political and financial issues, came into play..there was a complete reversal. It is a matter of money (contracts) and self -interest not morality or integrity.
Go to my website and you will see pictures/video of myself, inside of the ‘rubble of earthquake collapsed buildings’ in Oakland, San Francisco,Santa Cruz and Northridge.
Inside of explosion caused collapsed buildings in Oklahoma City and New York City.
Other structural failures happen, on a regular basis. I was in the rubble of a silo explosion in Illinois and an Apartment Building in New York City.
There is NO way that you can rationalize with a ‘birther’ mentality. This guy’s job description is to keep costs down, for his employer. It is ‘cheaper and less trouble’ for him to claim that USA buildings don’t collapse. If he admits that the buildings will collapse then people will want his employer’s to spend more money to make the buildings safer. People will complain. People will ask:” Why have you lied to us for so long?”
I want to ask him to guarantee that USA Building s won’t collapse. Why NOT? Your life is at stake if you believe him.
Think Tobacco Companies. The tobacco Companies had no trouble, for years, finding Medical Doctors who would argue that nicotine is NOT addictive and cigarettes don’t cause cancer.
This ‘engineer’ is exactly the same.
You will find pictures with analysis of every kind of structure found in California…from collapsed wooden home, apartment buildings, overhead freeway, concrete structures and brick. All collapsed with me..inside of them. This article will conceivably answer every question you might have.
******He states lighting fixtures and things hanging will drop but the roofs will not cave in. Reply:
I have pictures of the ceilings down and laying on top of the rows of desks. It is very unusual for fixtures to fall off a ceiling. He would know that if he ever actually saw a collapsed building; however, he claims that USA buildings don’t collapse…so, I gather that means that he has never seen a collapsed building..Unless using his logic that he knows what happens to the roofs, ceilings, light fixtures etc..when buildings collapse..although buildings don’t collapse????
******That is why we are to duck and cover.
Reply:
People are told to do ‘duck and cover’ because it would be embarassing, humiliating and costly for him to, now, admit that he was just ‘making it all up.’
***** Do you have any pertinent information to support the idea of roofs caving in in North America?
Reply: Of course, pictures, video, scientific tests..all the things that don’t matter to ‘duck and cover’/'birther’ mentalities..like reality, proof, evidence, facts.
******* I’m not an engineer (have thought about talking to the engineering program at UBC to see if they have any info) but thought I would ask you first.
I would rather be proactive than reactive after an incident. Do not want to say I told you so. I have a heck of a time doing drills with students…as I’m going against what they state we must do…I crouch beside my desk.
Reply: Yes, and there are many private and public schools, in the USA; Japan, China and other countries who are doing ‘triangle of Life’ drills. Understand, that Schools for the ‘elite’, the rich and powerful will NOT allow ‘a-holes’ like this ‘birther’ type to endanger their children’s lives. It is common that the rich, powerful, most educated and most intelligent are the first to progress. The disenfranchised, ‘non-elite’, poor and ‘unimportant’ are always the last, to benefit.
********* I need your help figuring out the roof issue…Thank you, XXX XXXXXX
Reply:
Some other issues:
1) Many any schools are built directly upon earthquake faults because ‘corporations’ wouldn’t build on it; therefore, it was cheap…so, the Government used it for schools.
2) I have personally crawled inside of 200+ collapsed building..like Kobe, Japan that were equal to or superior to, the very ‘best’ USA Buildings.
3) USA Buildings used to be stronger than most countries. That is no longer true. The USA has been ‘poor’ for too long; while other countries, have prospered greatly.
4) Anything that can be built, by man, is eventually destroyed by nature.
5) All USA buildings are not modern-high tech up to the minute code. USA Buildings are of all types..built to prevalent codes over history. only 2% or less are high tech.
6) When people, in other countries, hear that USA officials tell their people that they do NOT have earthquakes and that USA Building do NOT collapse. They laugh and tell me that I can’t be serious..followed by…incredulous gesticulations. It really is an insult to people’s intelligence.
But try to prove, with facts, to a ‘birther’ that Obama was born, in the USA…they get violent..they go ballistic…it is impossible. They don’t want facts..they want ‘dumb’.
Here is an excerpt of an email that I replied to 2 ‘earthquake Experts’ who attacked me. They are both paid as DM ‘consultants’ for business. One is a landscape architect and the other seems to have been a soldier.
My email:
I am ‘rocking the boat of the status quo” so…. of course there are responses/attacks like this.
But think about this: AS YOU SAY… THAT YOU LEARNED SO MUCH >>>While you were hiding under the BIG OAK DESK ….during the ‘moderate’ Loma Prieta Earthquake (SF 1989) Extremely moderate to me ..but NOT to the people who died when their buildings crushed them.
While, you were hiding, under your big oak desk(as you describe, in an area far away from the earthquake destruction); I was crawling under the Loma Prieta Rubble. Let’s not be foolish….Who do you think knows more about that earthquake. You or me?
Let’s dig deeper: If you were where I was..then you would know that the only ultimate survivor of the Nimitz Freeway Collapse; during this earthquake,was a little boy who was trapped, next to his dead mother, in a car.
It was necessary; for his dead mother, to be cut into pieces, to create, enough room to extract him/pull him out. He survived because he was ‘little’ and only needed a ‘little’ survival space. His mother was ‘bigger’. She needed a larger survivable void ”like a triangle of life..to avoid being crushed.
Loma Prieta..That was one ‘bad thing’ that was not currently present , in my mind. I am sorry that you reminded me of that.
Next to the vehicles were ‘ triangles of life’ or survivable voids. How can I say such a thing?
How can I prove the triangle of life?…………………….because people have eyes, to see for themselves and only a tiny bit of common sense is required.
because I have video and The Inside Edition TV Show ( one of the longest running and most distributed TV Programs, in the world. I have appeared on it many times.) made a TV program of myself under the rubble. Bill O’ Reily, currently of old ‘red meat’ and ‘redneck’ Fox Fame..interviews me in one of the TV Programs. Look in my youtube videos. I have about 600 hours of footage that would blow your mind (only 120 hours online.).
YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS: ALL OF THE VICTIMS WHO STAYED IN THE LINE OF GRAVITATIONAL FORCE..OF THE NIMITZ FREEWAY COLLAPSE WERE KILLED ! This is precisely the same as ‘duck and cover.’ EXCEPT FOR THE LITTLE BOY, IN THE NIGHTMARE.
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ALL OF THE VICTIMS, WHO DIED WOULD HAVE SURVIVED IF THEY FOLLOWED MY PROGRAM..AS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED WITH TEXT, PHOTOS, VIDEO AND ETC AT WWW.AMERRESCUE.ORG . The material has been there for years.
I made it so simple to understand so that little kids good ‘get it’.
email 2)
Doug Copp • As someone who has ACTUALLY crawled inside of 896 collapsed buildings; including, 200 PLUS ultra modern skyscrapers of the most sophisticated technology ..in the USA, Japan, Taiwan and many other places.
I can tell you that this is pure BS, that buildings don’t collapse, in the USA. It is NOT true.
By the way, my background before, rescue was working at Demolition. This included skyscrapers, implosions ..all the stuff you see on TV…in fact I was the California license holder for a Nationwide Contractor. I was asked to take the license holder exam; because, only 1 person out of every hundred passes this very difficult exam. I understand structures as an expert who has instructed, directed and lectured to an entire University of Engineering Stuents and professors. This is one of the reasons why I was able to survive 896 collapsed buildings when OSHA has statistically determined that 60% of rescuers are killed every entry/collapse. You can see, for yourself, at my website…and by the way..the scientific test that we did, in Turkey was in a typical North American solid ( not hollow tile or tilted up) concrete and rebar building.
You can go to my blog, my website www.amerrescue.org , or my 2 youtube channels: amerrescue and amerrescuegmail ans see actual video of me inside of these extremely sophisticated collapsed buildings..all over the world.
Years ago, the ‘triangle of life’ was attacked by stating that the USA doesn’t have earthquakes, then the BS was “buildings in the USA don’t collapse’ then the American Red Cross came out and stated that the ‘triangle of Life’ was appropriate in other countries but NOT the USA ( where they collect their donations and don’t want to rock the boat with USA Insurance Companies who consider it cheaper and less trouble if people die immediately from ‘duck and cover; rather than, survive and seek compensation.)
I encourage everyone to get the facts, determine the truth, think for yourself and of course go to my website and SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES).
I have stood in 3 cities without a single building left standing. There is NOTHING, IN THIS WORLD; THAT CANNOT BE DESTROYED BY NATURE, IN SECONDS. I have seen things that you can barely imagine.
Understand this, unless you have a Quake Alarm device; then you will have no more than 5 to 10 seconds, after you begin to feel an earthquake …to react.
If it turns out to be a giant earthquake, then possibly every building, in your area will collapse. If you ‘duck and cover’ then you will most likely be crushed to 1/4 inch thick.
If it is a moderate earthquake then only a few buildings will collapse
if you ‘duck and cover’ you might survive, if your building doesn’t collapse/
if it is a tiny earthquake then you may get a bruise from a falling book.
The question is; Do you risk being crushed to 1/4 inch thick with a puddle of blood oozing out..by doing ‘duck and cover’? I kept my blood soaked shirts…or do you risk a potential bruise?..by doing the ‘triangle of life’?
More importantly, How long will these ‘experts’ continue to tell people that earthquakes don’t happen, in the USA and buildings don’t collapse, in the USA?
I have concluded that they will continue to spout nonsense until people tell them to ‘shut up.’
doug copp
PS The answer to the 2 leading questions is ‘NO’. There is NO limit to ‘greed’ and there is NO limit to ‘dumb’.
be sure to go to other blog articles for supporting videos, pictures, docs and links ( hundreds) I recommend:
1) Triangle of Life. I had a nightmare, last night.
2) San Francisco Earthquake: The Big Lie Anniversary is Celebrated With More Deception.
3) Effective Earthquake Prediction
4) The History of Duck and Cover from a 22nd Century Perspective
5) Triangle of Life, NZ Radio interview with Doug Copp
6) The Triangle of Life Continues Spreading Around the World
7) Doug Copp in Time Magazine. United Nations Sends Triangle to Latin America
8) Desert Star Article Doug Copp Survival Tips Part 2
9) Newspaper Report of Doug Copp’s Survival Tips (part 1)
10) Doug Copp Blog 11) Earthquake Turkey, Oct 2011,The Triangle of Life has Saved Lives Today. More Survivors Using The Triangle of Life Continue To Be Rescued. 1 Million People Trained by Aksigorta Insurance Company / AKUT To Use The Triangle of Life
One of the World’s Most Important Safety Devices. It has saved an entire school of children for less than $50-$90. It gives you enough warning, before *YOU FEEL*the destructive earthquake waves, to save your life. It really works! and it is fabulous!
Yesterday, I got an email from Katlyn, in California. She sent me the results of her science project proving that the Triangle of Life saves more lives than ‘duck and Cover’.
